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Friday, August 16, 2013

Nissan Skyline GT-R Buyers Guide 1957-2002


KPG10(clone), R32, R33, R33 GT-R's
The Nissan Skyline GT-R is one of those iconic cars, because it was never really(other than in limited numbers) sold outside of Japan. Its something that a lot of people have seen on videos, played in video games, and seen in magazines. Now that the "modern" Nissan Skyline GT-R, the 1989 R32 turns 25 years old in 2014, we will probably see a few more of them here in the on the roads. However California still requires smog on anything newer than 1976(direct import cars 1975 or newer need FTP, 1968 to 1974 need to meet EPA requirements). I have been working on the modern cars(R32,R33,R34) since 1999, and done a few things with them. I will try and make a guide of what to look for, and some of the differences in the cars.  It might all not make much sense right now, but it will eventually. I have a Buyers Guide for the R35 GT-R that I keep updated. Its one of the most popular posts on 2009gtr.com. It also actually helps me as a reference.
1957 ALSID-1 Prince Skyline

The first "Skyline" was actually a Prince Skyline the ALSID-1 that debuted in April 1957. Nissan and Prince merged in 1966, with the first Nissan Skyline GT-R debuting in 1969.



PGC10 aka Hakosuka


The Hakosuka or "Box Skyline" had the 2.0 liter, 160 horsepower DOHC, S20 engine.  The PGC10 showed up in 1969. A total of 539 cars were sold. In 1970 293 cars were sold.

Its much more likely that you will come across a "GT-R clone"

KPGC10

KPGC10 Clone in the US

The KPCG10 was the 2 door version of the PGC10. In 1971 the KPGC10 hit the roads with 682 sold. 1972 had a total of 515 cars sold.

Driving the Legend from Edmunds.










Paint Codes

While doing some research I came across this chart. Not sure if its complete, or even correct.


#905 - Red
#831 - White
#920 - Gold
#970 - Metallic Lavendar(?)
#913 - Metallic Brown
#700 - Silver

Some Z- Car Color codes. 
1972 Nissan Touch Up Color Codes



KPGC110 aka Ken and Mary


The final year of the Nissan Skyline GT-R was 1973. Only 197 cars were made. Here is one that was for sale for 9.9 million yen, or almost $100,000. The last one we saw at auction (May 2015 was offered at nearly $280,000) The last of the Nissan Skyline GT-R until the 1989 R32 GT-R.

R32 

Group A R32 Nissan Skyline GT-R
Buy-R.com for Nissan Skyline GT-R and GT-R parts.

 
Car
R32 GT-R (early)
R33 GT-R (normal)
R34 GT-R (normal)
R35 GT-R (early)
Length
4545 mm (178.9 in)
4675 mm (184.1 in)
4600 mm (181.1 in)
4650 mm (183.1 in)
Width
1755 mm (69.1 in)
1780 mm (70.1 in)
1785 mm (70.3)
1900 mm (74.9 in)
Height
1340 mm (52.8 in)
1360 mm (53.5 in)
1360 mm (53.5 in)
1370 mm (54 in)
Weight
1480 kg (3265 lbs)
1530 kg (3373 lbs)
1540 kg (3395 lbs)
1737 kg (3829 lbs)
Wheelbase
2615 mm (103 in)
2720 mm (107.1 in)
2665 mm(104.9 in)
2780 mm (109.4 in)
Front track
1480 mm (58.3 in)
1480 mm (58.3 in)
1480 mm (58.3 in)
1590 mm (62.9 in)
Rear track
1480 mm (58.3 in)
1480 mm (58.3 in)
1490 mm (58.7 in)
1600 mm (63 in)

R32 

R32 GT-R covered by GT Channel

My personal favorite Nissan Skyline, is the R32 GT-R. Its the one that I saw when I went to Japan in 1991. It was the one that was destroying its contemporaries on the track. 

The R32 GT-R debuted in August 1989 and was sold though 1994. A new version of Nissan's RB inline 6 cylinder engine powered the car. Iron block, aluminum dual overhead cam head. Sodium filled exhaust valves. Solid lifters. Six throttle bodies. Twin turbo. Oil cooled pistons. 73mm stroke with an 86 mm piston giving the RB26 2568cc of displacement. Fitting right into the Group A formula for forced induction. Short stroke, low torque, high revving. Stock most of the engines had ceramic exhaust wheels on the turbochargers, and saw about 0.7 bar of boost(500 mmHG, 10psi).

On track at Willow Springs around 1999.

Behind the RB26DETT sat a 5 speed transmission, with internals shared with the Fairlady(300ZX). On the back of the transmission was the ATTESA transfercase, or the all wheel drive magic that made the R32 GT-R into the track monster it was.  On the track for Group A, the RB26 was tuned to 550 horsepower, making it unbeatable in 29 of 29 races in Japan.

There were a total of 4555 cars sold in 1989 and 43934 cars over its whole production run.

Some areas of concern on a 1989 Nissan Skyline GT-R, if you are looking to import it to the US. First off, its a 25 year old car. Not everything is going to be in as new condition, unless you pay a ton of money for the car. Current prices (March 2015) for Nissan GT-R's range from $8,000 for some really beat up piece of shit, to over $50,000 for a super low mileage nearly new car. I feel that a good range to be on the car is the $15k-$20k range. In that range you will get a decent car, and not a huge problem child. Expect to budget about another $5500(from Japan) for finding, buying, transporting, de-registering, loading, shipping, port fees, customs broker fees, 2.5% tariff, processing fee, mailing,
Aluminum hood and fenders





Exterior
Update: GT-R Registry has a full breakdown of colors and types. Check it out. They managed to get lots of the missing FAST info.
  • Color Codes or Paint Codes for Nissan Skyline GT-R 1989 to 1994
    • Some of these codes I haves seen in other years than listed. Have not seen an original white in an early car, but it might have been possible. the blue plate under the hood tells you the color code. 
    • Early 1989 to 1990 (NO white)
      • #KH2 - Gun Grey Metallic
        #KG1 - Jet Silver Metallic
        #TH1 - Dark Blue Pearl
        #AH3 - Red Pearl Metallic
        #732 - Black Pearl Metallic
        #KL0 - Spark Silver Metallic
        #BL0 - Greyish Blue Pearl (special order)
        #AN0 - Wine Red
    • Middle 1991 to 1992 (First white)
      • #KH2 - Gun Grey Metallic
        #KG1 - Jet Silver Metallic
        #TH1 - Dark Blue Pearl
        #AH3 - Red Pearl Metallic
        #732 - Black Pearl Metallic
        #326 - Cristal White
        #KL0 - Spark Silver Metallic
        #BL0 - Greyish Blue Pearl (special order)
        #AN0 - Wine Red
    • Late 1993 to 1994
      • #KH2 - Gun Grey Metallic
        #KG1 - Jet Silver Metallic
        #AH3 - Red Pearl Metallic
        #732 - Black Pearl Metallic
        #326 - Cristal White
        #KL0 - Spark Silver Metallic
        #AN0 - Wine Red
  • Rust. Japan gets it
    • Check around the rear fender area

    • Check around the rear window
    • Open the trunk look under the spare tire for any water collecting
  • Fenders and hood are aluminum and a little fragile
    • No matter what she says she weighs, you shouldn't let her "Whitesnake it"
  • Windshields and glass are unique to the Skyline GT-R
  • Does it have an aftermarket exhaust?
  • How do the wheels/tires look?
  • How do the brake rotors look?
    • Original R32 brake rotors are cross drilled
    • Later N1 rotors are solid
  • The cars are all wheel drive, and the front driveshaft boots are often torn.


Torn CV boot right side outer




Interior
  • Dash around the vents can lift and bubble
  • Speedometer clusters
  • Stock 180 km/hr speedometer
    • The cars came with a 180 km/hr speedometer
    • Lots of aftermarket speedometers exist. Always have to be suspect of mileage/km on an aftermarket speedo
    • Always use your best judgement on mileage/km
      • Look at shifter
      • Look at pedals
      • If it seems too good to be true, then it probably is
  • Generally cars have low mileage, but 200k km cars are not unheard of
  • Does it have a factory ECU?
    • Its located behind the passenger side kick panel
  • Does it have an aftermarket boost controller?
  • Does it have an aftermarket boost gage?
  • How about a huge monster tach?
  • The Japanese seem to love Scotchlocks. These little piece of shit, lazy fucker horrible contact things are all over Japanese electronics installations. Take all of them out. Get rid of them. "Un-fuck" the car. They should never be used in anything unless an emergency. The connection is so unreliable. Butt splices, soldering(although they try and minimize solder in race car applications), shit I would rather see the wire stripped back, wrapped around it and taped than a Scotchlock


Engine

  • RB26DETT have oiling issues
  • Check the oil level
  • Look for signs of leaks
    • Front main is often a cracked oil pump gear
    • Half moons at the back of the engine can get brittle and leak
    • Half moon at the back of the engine. Hot side valve cover off

    • Turbos can leak
  • Rough idle can be a sign of a vacuum leak
    • 6 throttle bodies
    • Injectors
  • Check for a boost restrictor
  • Does the car have a factory airbox?

  • Does it have other aftermarket parts visible?
Driving
  • Car should start easily and settle into around 1000 rpm idle
  • Oil pressure at idle should be around the first hash mark, or about 30 psi
    • If its not, 10 psi per 1000 rpm is generally accepted, but can be concerning
    • Can be a sign of a bad sender, or leaky backing plate on the oil pump
  • 4th gear often grinds. Its a straight back pull, so guys don't let the synchros do their job, and hurt them. 
  • An all wheel drive car can put a hurting on a transmission. A modified GT-R often breaks 3rd gear. 
  • The car should make about 10 psi, or about the first hash mark on the factory boost gage that reads in mmHG. If it buries the gage, then its running about 14 psi. 
  • If its running 14 psi or more, with the factory turbos, then their days are numbered.  It might run for years, it might snap the exhaust wheel of next week. Detonate on the engine, or find the rev limiter a few too many times, and expect that life to greatly diminish. 



Production/Chassis codes are below. 
1989
August 1989  BNR32-000054
September 1989 BNR32-001089
October 1989 BNR32-002089
November 1989 BNR32-003027
December 1989 BNR32-004027


Variations of models

Standard-40390
Nismo-560
vspec-1453
vspecII-1303

N1-228

R32 GT-R(43934 total) registration

1989-4555 1990-8426
1991-7081 1992-7961
1993-6204 1994-7465



Dates of Production and Prices 8-21-1989 to 2-14-1994 

1st model 8-21-1989 
4,445,000 yen Nismo 3-11-1990
4,441,000 yen 
2nd model 8-20-1991 
4,510,000 yen 
3rd model 2-3-1993
4,545,000 yen 
Vspec 2-3-1993
5,260,000 yen 
Vspec II 2-14-1994
5,260,000 yen 

First         BNR32-000051
Last          BNR32-314649
Last VSpec    BNR32-313609 (10/13/94)
Last Vspec II BNR32-313930 (10/20/94)
Nismo         BNR32-100000~100560

- 08/21/'89 BNR32 Shipped

- 02/22/'90 BNR32 NISMO Announced(03/11 Shipped)

Air intake in front bumper
Sub rear spoiler added
Side protector modified
Protection net removed
Air guide for intercooler newly added
Special Turbine
Special exhaust manifold
No ABS, rear windshield wiper 
30kg lighter than standard R32
Only available gunmetal color(KH2)




- 07/19/'91 N1 BNR32 announced and shipped

With GT-R NISMO aero parts
No ABS, an Air Conditioner, rear windshield wiper or audio
No cross drilled rotors
brake cooling air guides attached to tension rods
light weight 2 headlight
# After 02/'92 metal turbine wheels

- 08/20/'91 Minor change. Middle model

Bar added in door (50kg weight increase)
Projector light modified(H3C->H1)
Driver's air bag optional
Oil pump drive widened
Cylinder block modified (reinforced partly and lighten)
Rear caliper seal modified
Interior partly changed

- 02/03/'93 Minor change Late model. V-spec added

Rear diff cover fin removed
Clutch modified (push -> pull)
Synchronizers modified
Brembo caliper added(V-spec)
ETS program modified(V-spec)
Tires changed (V-spec: 225/50-17)
BBS mesh special wheel (V-spec)
# N1 model gets to based on V-spec

- 02/14/'94 V-spec2 added

Tire changed 245/45-17
# N1 model gets based on V-spec2
Besides these, ECU, cylinder block and the size of turbine
had been modified some times without notice.
Spot welding is supposedly decreased after '94.

Finding, Buying, Exporting, Importing, Clearing, Titling, Insuring, and Registering your Nissan Skyline GT-R

That is a long title. Lots of information. Not just specific to the R32 GT-R, but it fits here for now.
Buying - International Vehicle Importers have many vehicles in stock in Japan, and will be on the way to the US once they turn 25 years old.Check out IVI on Facebook for updates on available cars.  The first R32 were made in August. A total of 4555 cars were produced in 1989. 

VIN Information - Do not let a state assign a VIN to your car. The chassis number is the equivalent of a VIN. The NHTSA says to more or less not fuck with it. So don't do it. It is a federal offense to do it, you have been warned.  http://www.gtrusablog.com/2012/05/vin-number-and-chassis-number-education.html

Right Hand Drive -Is it legal to drive a right hand drive car in the US?  The short answer is yes.The long answer is here. http://www.gtrusablog.com/2014/04/is-it-legal-to-drive-right-hand-drive.html

How to Title and Register A Nissan Skyline GT-R in the USA.  -  If you are looking to either import, or buy a Nissan Skyline there are a few things you should know about the title and registration process. In the United States vehicles over twenty five years old are Department of Transportation (DOT) exempt from meeting Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards(FMVSS). At over twenty one years old cars are Environmental Protection Agency(EPA)exempt in original configuration.  If the car is newer than 25 years old, it still might be possible to import it under the Show or Display exemption, but check out that page for more information.To meet California direct import requirements, the car must be older than 1975. To have a newer car meet California requirements, it is very expensive, and sometimes near impossible to comply. More information - http://www.gtrusablog.com/2014/04/how-to-title-and-register-1989-nissan.html

Why have one, when you can have two? 


NISMO R32 GT-R with NISMO option wheels.

Not an R32 GT-R. 

R33

R33, R33, R33
The R33 GT-R debuted in 1995, and is probably the most popular body style in the US. Well at least it was back in 1998 until the R34 debuted for 1999. Its a larger, heavier car than the R32. The biggest GT-R, it is a bit of an odd one out. It is reported to be the first production car to run under 8 minutes at the Nurburgring, but I honestly do not believe that claim. The car they ran had modifications in order to run that number. No matter the claim, no independent testing even got close. Add a tire, an exhaust, and an oil cooler, with the right driver its possible, but box stock, not likely. 

Early R33 with 97 up headlights and Nismo Wheels


There are some other oddities with the R33. There were N1 cars produced, but no one seems to know how many cars were actually N1's. If you had a copy of FAST and enough time, you could look up all the chassis codes. Maybe just no one cared enough.  From 1995-1998 there were 16,250 R33 GT-R's produced. About 1/3 the number of R32's. 

The R33's RB26 had a few changes from the R32 engine, but overall near the same. It ran a little more boost. You would see about 11-12 psi peak. 

Normal - 9871
Vspec - 6551(N1 from here)

1995- 8446
1996- 4093
1997-2708
1998 -1175

Last R33's, chassis number and colors
Normal     BCNR33-043740(11-9-98) QM1
Vspec       BCNR33-043743(11-9-98) KH3
Vspec N1 BCNR33-043012(2-20-98) QM1


First Date of Production

  • 1st model 1-6-1995
  • Vspec 1-6-1995
  • 2nd model 1-22-1996
  • LM Limited5-21-1996
  • 3rd model 2-3-1997
  • Autech 40th Anniversary12-8-1997
  • Last regular R33 - BCNR33-043740 (QM1 ) 11-9-1998
  • Last Vspec R33 - BCNR33-043743 (KH3) 11-9-1998
  • Last Vspec R33 N1- BCNR33-043012 (QM1) 2-20-1998


Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 prices when new

 1-6-95
  • GT-R    4,7850,000 yen
  • Vspec   5,290,000  yen
  • N1        5,990,000 yen 
 1-22-96
  • GT-R    4,825,000 yen
  • Vspec   5,330,000  yen
  • N1        5,990,000 yen 
 5-21-96
  • LM Limited    4,998,000 yen
  • Vspec LM Limited   5,503,000  yen
 2-3-97
  • GT-R        4,885,000 yen
  • Vspec       5,390,000 yen
  • N1            5,998,000 yen
12-8-97  
  • 4 door Sedan  4,985,000 yen

R34 

Bayside Blue R34 GT-R
The R34 GT-R. The one that gets all the You Tube commenters, and little boys playing Gran Turismo excited. If its not an R34, then its not a Skyline. The R34 is a little smaller than the R33, but has a few additional improvements with a 6 speed Getrag V160 transmission, MFD, and aerodynamic improvements. Official power stayed at 280 PS/HP/Chipmunk power, but boost had been raised to about 1 bar peak. The RB26 doesn't make the same power at 10 psi as it does at 14 psi. 

A couple of the 56 R34 N1's. Automotiveforums.com
There were 11577 R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R produced 1999-2003. Although in 2003 there were only 2 cars produced.   There has been some wrong information floating around for years from GT-R Magazine. Same information we used. However the 12,175 number was wrong.  GT-R Registry to the rescue with some real numbers pulled from multiple sources. 


1999-5798
2000-1881
2001-2166
2002-1732
___________________

These are registrations, and adds up to : 11577 cars

Normal(Series I and II)  - 3977
Vspec - 4192
Vspec N1 - 38
GB - 80
NZ-5
HK-10
Singapore -10
Vspec II - 1855
Vspec II N1 - 18
NZ Vspec II - 2
M-Spec- 366
Vspec II Nur - 717
Mspec Nur - 285


BNR34 Color or Paint Codes 
TV2- Bayside Blue

The campaign color of the R34 Skyline GT-R was the popular TV2 - Bayside Blue. Its named Bayside, for the popular roads near the bayside of Tokyo.



EV1 - Lightning Yellow

TV2 - Bayside Blue
QM1 - White 
KR4 - Sonic Silver 
KV2 - Athlete Silver 
GV1 - Black Pearl
AR2 - Active Red


AR2- Active Red
EV1 - Lightning Yellow
LV4 - Midnight Purple II(Only 300 produced)
LX0 - Midnight Purple III 

  • Why is the color called Midnight purple? Check the link out for the most likely answer.

WV2 - Sparkling Silver 
QX1 - White Pearl 
EY0 - Silica Breath 


JWO- Millennium Jade

JW0 - Millennium Jade

Last R34 Chassis numbers and colors

Vspec II  BNR34-404495(8-29-02) WV2
Mspec    BNR34-404483(8-29-02)EY0


R34(1999-2003,2005) 
There were several different versions of the R34 Skyline GTR. From the early edition first produced in 1999, to the Z-Tune from Nismo in 2005, there were 10 different versions.  There were 750 Vspec II Nur's produced, and 250 Mspec Nurs produced right at the end of the production run in 2002.

* Early 

* Late 
* Vspec 
* Vspec N1 
* Vspec II 
* Vspec II N1 
* Mspec 
* Vspec II Nur 
* Mspec Nur 

* Z-Tune 

Nissan Skyline GT-R prices when new 

1-8-1999 

* GT-R 4,998,000 yen 
* Vspec 5,598,000 yen 
* N1 5,998,000 yen 

1-8-1999 Midnight purple II (300) 

* GT-R 5,298,000 yen 
* Vspec 5,898,000 yen 

1-7-2000 Midnight purple III 

* GT-R 5,148,000 yen 
* Vspec 5,748,000 yen 

8-28-2000 

* GT-R 5,048,000 yen 
* Vspec II 5,748,000 yen 
* N1 6,098,000 yen 

5-8-2001 

* Mspec 5,950,000 yen 


Suspension and Alignment settings for Nissan Skyline GT-R. R32, R33, and R34. 


R32 GT-R Specifications and Production Information

R33 GT-R Specifications and Production Information
R34 GT-R Specifications and Production Information
RB26DETT Information
ATTESA Information

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1 comment:

MHPALA said...

Thanks for the info Sean. I plan on importing a R32 come 2014, will definitely be contacting R-International.

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