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Sunday, December 31, 2017

Nissan Skyline GT-R Weights : Corner Weight : How much does an R32, R33, or R34 GT-R Weigh?

R32 GT-R. Some weight transfer happening at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca

Weight. How much does something weigh?  When it comes to cars, lighter is better. The less weight a car has the easier it is to accelerate, brake, turn, and stop. As weight increases the loads on the tires increase to the point where you overwhelm, and overheat the tires.

Car weights are normally all over the board. There are "official" weights. There are gross vehicle weights, there are often numbers on the FMVSS labels in the door jam in a US certified vehicle.  However if you ever put a car on a set of scales, you may find that your numbers are nowhere close any of those numbers.   A good example is the R32/R33/R34 GT-R.  In order to drive a car, you need to have fuel. You need to have fluids in the car.  Some of the numbers out there for these cars, we suspect are 100% dry of fluids.

The numbers below are more realistic, but we think that R33, and R34 are still a bit light.  The R32 had an early car, with no door bars, and a later car with door bars.  The door bars supposedly increase the weight by 50kg, or 110 lbs. Putting the 1991 up R32 at 1530 kg, 3373 lbs, or the same weight as the R33 GT-R.  The R33 is longer, wider, and taller than the R32, and uses the same drivetrain. We call bullshit.

R32 GT-R Weight

- 08/20/'91 Minor change. Middle model

Door bars added (50kg weight increase)
Head light projector modified(H3C->H1)
Driver's air bag optional
Oil pump drive widened
Cylinder block modified (reinforced partly and lighten)
Rear caliper seal modified
Interior partly changed (from smooth black radio surround, to textured)

We have weighed a nearly all stock NISMO R32 GT-R. The NISMO according to Nissan is 30kg lighter than a standard R32 GT-R. So it should be 1450 kg or 3196 lbs.  This should be the lightest normal GT-R. No ABS, no rear wiper.

Nearly stock NISMO with fuel weighs 3300 lbs. 
330 lbs On the dot. Or close to it. With the spare out of the car it lost about 35 lbs of weight. Figure 17 gallons of fuel at about 6 lbs per gallon means about 100 lbs of gasoline in the back. So the 3200 lb figure for the NISMO is most likely correct. 

R33 GT-R Weight

We have had a couple of R33 across drag racing scales, and they normally tip in right above 3600 lbs. Once we get some solid scale weights, we will put them in here.

R34 GT-R Weight

The R34 is a little smaller dimensionally than the R33, but it has more bracing, more attachments. All of which add weight.  Just pushing an R34 vs pushing an R32 is obvious how much more an R34 weighs.

R34 GT-R race car. We got it down to 2997 lbs, dry
The R34 GT-R World Challenge race car, we got down to 2997 lbs, dry. However to get it there, we had carbon doors, carbon trunk skinned, glass front bumper,  rear bumper,hood, fenders, carbon clutch, carbon driveshaft, two piece rotors, stripped all the excess heat shielding out.  Titanium exhaust,

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